Student chat
The Trump Administration & Higher Education
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The conversation, then the understanding quiz and the post-chat survey that followed it. All three are written out below in order.
01Chat transcript
Guide
👋 Welcome, everyone!
Our topic is the Trump administration and higher education. We'll be discussing this statement:
The Trump administration is wrong to use the leverage of federal funds to pressure colleges and universities to change their policies.
- Julia agrees with the statement.
- Luke disagrees with the statement.
My name is Guide, and I'm here to support your discussion. If you need anything, start your message with “Hey Guide” 🤓
Luke
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Luke
Julia
Luke
a few days later
Luke
a few days later
Julia
Julia
Luke
Guide
Luke, can you clarify what you mean by "go against their educational goals"?
Are you suggesting that ideological leaning itself undermines education, or are you pointing to specific practices (like limiting certain speakers, requiring particular viewpoints in coursework, etc.) that you think cross a line?
This distinction matters because Julia seems concerned about the government deciding what counts as acceptable viewpoint diversity, while you seem focused on whether institutions themselves are failing to provide balanced education. These might be compatible concerns, but they could also be in tension depending on what you mean.
Luke
Julia
Luke
Guide
Julia, how do you respond to Luke's question?
He's asking about the practical challenge: if a school already has an ideological echo chamber, how does it actually shift toward viewpoint diversity?
This seems to test whether your proposed mechanism can work in practice, or if it only prevents the problem from developing in the first place.
Julia
Luke
Julia
Guide
Luke, what's your response?
Julia's offering alternative intervention methods that don't involve DEI policies. But I'm curious: you said earlier that the federal government should be able to use funding leverage to enforce viewpoint diversity at public institutions.
How is that different from what Julia's describing? You both seem to agree intervention is needed — so what makes threatening to withhold funding acceptable to you, but her proposed interventions problematic?
Luke
Julia
Luke
Guide
Julia, does that distinction matter to you?
Luke's suggesting withholding additional funds for schools that don't comply, rather than cutting existing funding.
Does that address your concern about the government using funding as leverage? Or is any funding-based pressure still problematic in your view?
Julia
Luke
Luke
Julia
You have completed the chat! You may continue chatting after the Understanding Quiz 🤠
02Understanding quiz
Sway asks each student five questions about what their partner argued. These are the answers they gave.
Lukedisagrees
Understanding Quiz
5 questions about what Julia argued.
- She argued that public institutions have no connection to government and require no oversight.
- She insisted universities should retain full autonomy over their internal policies regardless of funding.
- She argued that tying funds to ideological criteria lets the government censor unacceptable viewpoints.
- She claimed that ideological leaning of a school necessarily undermines its educational mission.
correct
- Restrict or penalize schools that limit guest speakers based on their viewpoints.
- Provide funding exclusively for research initiatives that explore various ideological perspectives.
- Eliminate government involvement entirely and rely on institutional self-regulation.
- Implement DEI-like policies that enforce hiring processes free from viewpoint contingencies to promote viewpoint diversity.
correct
- She agreed that requiring transparent course syllabi addresses the core issue of viewpoint diversity.
- She accepted that withholding additional funds is distinct from cutting existing funding.
- She accepted mandating ideological quotas within departments without enforcement.
- She argued that using Title IX procedures would better safeguard free expression.
correct
- Whether the Trump administration's policies apply only to federal grants or also to research funds.
- Whether public and private universities should have different funding mechanisms.
- Whether you meant schools' ideological leanings generally undermine education or specific practices cross the line.
- Whether you prioritized meritocracy over viewpoint diversity in hiring processes.
correct
- Transparent/publicly accessible hiring processes focusing on both skill and openness to different perspectives.
- Mandatory ideological training modules for every enrolled student.
- Requiring tenure status before professors can express dissenting viewpoints.
- Capping tuition rates to ensure affordability for all students.
correct
Juliaagrees
Understanding Quiz
5 questions about what Luke argued.
- To ensure colleges fulfill their goals of educating youth, offering reasonable tuition, and funding research.
- To punish universities that oppose the current administration.
- To promote ideological uniformity across institutions.
- To increase federal control over private school curricula.
correct
- The distinction between federal and state regulatory power.
- The difference between ideological leaning and specific practices like speaker restrictions.
- The difference between public and private institutions in funding.
- The distinction between DEI policies and merit-based hiring.
correct
- He proposed cutting all ongoing federal funding for institutions.
- He insisted the government should now manage which speakers are allowed on campus.
- He abandoned the idea of using any federal leverage for educational policies.
- He suggested offering additional earmarked funds contingent on meeting viewpoint diversity criteria.
correct
- He agreed that DEI policies were the ideal solution.
- He argued that DEI policies could undermine the meritocracy at top institutions.
- He claimed DEI policies were unconstitutional.
- He proposed replacing DEI with accreditation standards.
correct
- Because students consciously select them knowing their educational and ideological orientation.
- Because private institutions receive no federal funds at all.
- Because they must adhere to national accreditation standards.
- Because private institutions are not subject to public transparency laws.
correct
03Post-chat survey
Last, both students rate the statement again and then rate a randomly sampled subset of our post-chat survey items. Like their transcripts, individual student opinions are never revealed to instructors.
Lukedisagrees
Now you’ve had a chance to discuss the topic, rate your level of agreement with the original statement again.
Remember, all responses to Sway surveys are private and never shown to your instructor.
The Trump administration is wrong to use the leverage of federal funds to pressure colleges and universities to change their policies.
| Strongly disagree | Moderately disagree | Slightly disagree | No idea | Slightly agree | Moderately agree | Strongly agree |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
How much do you agree with each of these?
| Statement | Strongly Disagree | Disagree | Neutral | Agree | Strongly Agree |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Guide's contributions improved the discussion | |||||
| My partner was genuinely trying to understand my perspective | |||||
| My partner had better reasons for their views than I expected | |||||
| It was valuable to chat with a student who did NOT share my perspective | |||||
| It would be good if more students and classes used Sway | |||||
| This discussion led me to change my mind about something related to the topic |
How did this Sway chat affect your confidence discussing complex issues with people who hold different views from you?
Juliaagrees
Now you’ve had a chance to discuss the topic, rate your level of agreement with the original statement again.
Remember, all responses to Sway surveys are private and never shown to your instructor.
The Trump administration is wrong to use the leverage of federal funds to pressure colleges and universities to change their policies.
| Strongly disagree | Moderately disagree | Slightly disagree | No idea | Slightly agree | Moderately agree | Strongly agree |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
How much do you agree with each of these?
| Statement | Strongly Disagree | Disagree | Neutral | Agree | Strongly Agree |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Guide's contributions improved the discussion | |||||
| Guide treated me and my partner with equal respect | |||||
| Guide supported both sides of the discussion equally | |||||
| I was not offended by my partner's perspective | |||||
| It would be good if more students and classes used Sway | |||||
| This discussion led me to change my mind about something related to the topic |
How did this Sway chat affect your confidence discussing complex issues with people who hold different views from you?
Opinion change
Lukedisagrees
+5
Juliaagrees
-1
before the chat after the chat Seven points, from strongly disagree to strongly agree. Both students rated the statement before the chat and again after the quiz.
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